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    <title>cmdln.net_2007-11-04</title>
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    <outline text="Intro" Offset="00:17">
      <outline text="Leopard">
        <outline text="Not hugely impressed"/>
        <outline text="Not using Time Machine, yet"/>
        <outline text="Haven't upgrade desktop, need to test a couple bits of software"/>
        <outline text="Find spaces and expose to be somewhat at odds"/>
        <outline text="Frustrated that I have to re-figure out how to apply some customizations"/>
        <outline text="Run SSH on a custom port, new firewall preference pane doesn't seem to allow arbitrary ports like old one"/>
        <outline text="X11 server seems to have taken a huge step backwards, having window focus issues I have not had since early Tiger"/>
        <outline text="No application incompatibilities so far, though"/>
      </outline>
      <outline text="Bob Young talk">
        <outline text="More focused on entrepreneurship"/>
        <outline text="Mentioned iBiblio as a form of commons, didn't really elaborate"/>
        <outline text="Also suggested copyright, patent terms could or should be variable"/>
        <outline text="Didn't discuss details, like scheme for varying or evaluating"/>
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    <outline text="Listener Feedback" Offset="09:13">
      <outline text="CA Sizemore on Radiohead"/>
      <outline text="Will the Computer Guy on Will"/>
      <outline text="J.Irving on more CS, programming coverage">
        <outline text="Paul also corrected on NNTP vs. UUCP"/>
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    <outline text="Security Alerts" Offset="20:39">
      <outline text="Problems with Leopard firewall" Offset="20:58">
        <outline text="http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/slashdot/eqWf/~3/177330755/article.pl"/>
        <outline text="The firewall is disabled by default post upgrade/install"/>
        <outline text="The automatic setting is way to permissive"/>
        <outline text="Even the block all seems to have some unclear exceptions for some services"/>
        <outline text="May have to do with zeroconf, published or discovered services still allowed under block all"/>
        <outline text="Article recommends using ipfw which is still available"/>
        <outline text="Understandably omits details on use, but doesn't even link to another article"/>
        <outline text="Found a reasonable iBiblio article"/>
        <outline text="http://www.ibiblio.org/macsupport/ipfw/"/>
      </outline>
      <outline text="Leopard already has security issues to be patched" Offset="23:08">
        <outline text="http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&amp;ct=us/7-0&amp;fd=R&amp;url=http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,139110-c,onlinesecurity/article.html&amp;cid=1122925325&amp;ei=ru8oR8LDE4zUqQOthvTSDQ"/>
        <outline text="Critical of new features"/>
        <outline text="Library randomization, attempts to make it impossible for a buffer overflow to execute arbitrary calls"/>
        <outline text="Vista has a similar feature"/>
        <outline text="Problem is that not all library use or participate under Leopard"/>
        <outline text="Same issues with Sandboxing"/>
        <outline text="Ideally would wall off software, limiting risk"/>
        <outline text="Not all programs, components are sandboxed"/>
        <outline text="Also, some sandbox policies are incomplete, overly permissive"/>
        <outline text="Also pointed out firewall"/>
        <outline text="Doesn't sound like additional issue increase risk"/>
        <outline text="Just don't make the new version as secure as hoped"/>
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    <outline text="News" Offset="24:45">
      <outline text="New, high density memory research" Offset="25:59">
        <outline text="http://www.wired.com/gadgets/miscellaneous/news/2007/10/ion_memory"/>
        <outline text="Michael Kozicki, director of Applied Nano-ionics at Arizona State University"/>
        <outline text="Programmable metallization cell (PMC)"/>
        <outline text="Replacement for flash memory"/>
        <outline text="Lower cost, lower power"/>
        <outline text="Flash is approaching physical limits"/>
        <outline text="Currently at 50nm, won't scale below 25nm"/>
        <outline text="For similar reasons to CPU die sizes, introduction of quantum effects, errors"/>
        <outline text="Don't scale as well as CPUs, need a certain minimum number of electrons in the circuit to work"/>
        <outline text="Scaling issues, as well as cost, explain why flash media players max out so low"/>
        <outline text="Utilizes a nano scale ionic effect"/>
        <outline text="Applying a negative charge causes free floating copper atoms to form a wire"/>
        <outline text="Reversing the charge returns atoms from wire to free floating"/>
        <outline text="Relies on physical changes, not the charge itself"/>
        <outline text="PMC can re-use materials already in use, defraying capital costs"/>
        <outline text="Technology has already been licensed, first product in the pipe and will be out in 18 months"/>
        <outline text="Seems to be the most mature, furthest along"/>
        <outline text="Time will tell"/>
      </outline>
      <outline text="Calling for a presidential debate on science" Offset="29:54">
        <outline text="http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2007/10/call_for_a_presidential_debate.html"/>
        <outline text="An op-ed from Matthew Chapman"/>
        <outline text="In a section dealing with issues of faith"/>
        <outline text="Speaks about evolution, a hot button issue"/>
        <outline text="This is not a positive call for education, but a critical comment against faith"/>
        <outline text="Mentions other science based questions, challenges"/>
        <outline text="Should have given more weight to science education more generally"/>
        <outline text="Evolution too easily touches off religious arguments"/>
        <outline text="I do like the format he suggests, even using known scientists"/>
        <outline text="Problem is that studies have shown that this is not an issue of leadership"/>
        <outline text="Many Americans appear to share Bush's view on doubting evolution"/>
        <outline text="Many also seem to lack basic science education"/>
        <outline text="Why couldn't we shoot for something more attainable and immediately useful, like remedial technology literacy?"/>
        <outline text="What about making this a voting issue for congress critters?"/>
        <outline text="These are folks drafting legislation, an informed congress could balance an ignorant executive"/>
      </outline>
      <outline text="Visual command line demonstrated at FOSSCamp" Offset="34:41">
        <outline text="http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/10/29/ars-at-fosscamp-revolutionizing-the-command-line-with-hotwire"/>
        <outline text="Colin Walters of RedHat demonstrated HotWire"/>
        <outline text="Walters was original developer and pretty much sole maintainer"/>
        <outline text="Goal is to make system development administration easier"/>
        <outline text="Admits to being inspired by Microsoft's PowerShell"/>
        <outline text="Instead of passing around text via stdin, stdout, passes around Python object instances"/>
        <outline text="Allows for more structured output, also more sophisticated data passing"/>
        <outline text="Runs commands asynchronously, opening new background tabs for background execution"/>
        <outline text="Supports more usual shell features than Microsoft"/>
        <outline text="History browsing, autocompletion in particular"/>
        <outline text="Supports some more visual grace notes, like icons in file listings and visual progress bars"/>
        <outline text="Considering future features like remote automation, xml-rpc over ssh"/>
        <outline text="Hasn't focused on fully utilizing Python as means of scripting, extending"/>
        <outline text="Early users seem keen on this greater exposure of Python capabilities"/>
        <outline text="I like he is focused on just the shell experience, rather than building yet another scripting tool"/>
        <outline text="Article even points out this puts it in contrast to PowerShell, which focuses on scripting first, experience last"/>
      </outline>
      <outline text="First federal testing standards for e-voting" Offset="38:01">
        <outline text="http://feeds.arstechnica.com/~r/arstechnica/BAaf/~3/178750471/20071102-after-years-of-use-e-voting-gets-first-real-federal-testing-guidelines.html"/>
        <outline text="Update authored by Election Assistance Commission"/>
        <outline text="Voluntary Voting System Guidelines, still a recommendation, not a requirement"/>
        <outline text="Some states have voted to make this mandatory, however"/>
        <outline text="Fully browsable online"/>
        <outline text="Reads more like a technical standard"/>
        <outline text="More clearly focused on guiding implementers"/>
        <outline text="Stipulates performance based testing for usability"/>
        <outline text="Should reduce, if not eliminate, private testing that hasn't done anything measurable to improve usability or security"/>
        <outline text="Eliminates direct-recording electronic machines"/>
        <outline text="Seems to adopt NISTs concept of software independence"/>
        <outline text="Author thinks we need a procedures standard, too"/>
        <outline text="Makes sense as even secure equipment can be misused"/>
        <outline text="Absence of procedural standard may even erode perceptions of technical standards"/>
        <outline text="In light of future failure, critics may blame existing standard rather than absence of additional standards"/>
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    <outline text="tail -f" Offset="40:19">
      <outline text="Monsoon settles out of court" Offset="40:38">
        <outline text="http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/10/31/first_gpl_suit_settles/"/>
        <outline text="Despite claims to the contrary, SFLC agreed to settle"/>
        <outline text="Monsoon already expressed their desire to settle, earlier"/>
        <outline text="Settlement includes unknown sum, requires Monsoon to publish source, notify customers of GPL rights, and appoint compliance officer"/>
        <outline text="GPL2 remains untested in US courts"/>
        <outline text="Closest precedent is Jacobsen, Artistic License case which ruled attribution clause was a condition on a contract"/>
        <outline text="As a matter of contract, apparently insufficient for injunctive relief as with an infringement claim"/>
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    <outline text="Outro" Offset="43:11">
      <outline text="Contact me">
        <outline text="Email to feedback@thecommandline.net"/>
        <outline text="Web site at http://thecommandline.net/"/>
        <outline text="IM to command.line@skype"/>
        <outline text="Listener comment line is 360-252-7284"/>
        <outline text="del.icio.us tag is &quot;for:cmdln&quot;"/>
        <outline text="http://twitter.com/cmdln"/>
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      <outline text="I'd like to thank libsyn.com for AAC hosting and Wouter de Bie for MP3 hosting"/>
      <outline text="These notes and the show audio and music are covered by a Creative Commons license">
        <outline text="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/"/>
        <outline text="Attribution, non-commercial, share alike"/>
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